Exact Approximations

Thursday, March 09, 2006

Abortions for Boys?

Today, the National Center for Men will file a suit in a Michigan federal district court on behalf of 25 year old Matt Dubay, a man who has been ordered by the State of Michigan to pay child support. According to Dubay's version, the child's mother repeatedly assured him she was biologically incapable of pregnancy and the couple agreed they did not want children. But, lo and behold, she ended up pregnant and Matt received orders to pay child support.

The argument goes something like this: Roe v. Wade (and Casey), create a Constitutional right to reproductive choice. However, in application, women are granted reproductive rights while men are assigned reproductive responsibility. A secondary argument invokes equal protection because men do not have a similar say in whether a conception leads to birth and the attaching financial and emotional responsibilities (obviously, the equal protection argument is lacking a bit in the "similarly situated" department....)

The plaintiff will argue that a Constitutional right to "opt-out" should be established for men - similar to the time during which a woman's right to terminate her potetial parental responsibilities is absolutely protected (via abortion). While men cannot undergo abortions, Dubay feels potential fathers should be entitled to a similar right/ time period during which they can "choose" not to be a parent. Obviously, men would be required to share in half the cost of abortion or adoption. But if the woman decides to keep the child, and the father has timely opted out, the financial responsibility of raising the child would rest with the woman and the man would be relieved of future responsibilities (and rights) related to the child.

I see some logical points in Dubay's arguments: Women have 100% say in whether the product of consensual behaviors that result in a pregnancy will lead to childbirth. I get that this is a "right to control my body" issue for women, and that is part of the reason that women are granted the absolute right to an abortion. Men have no corresponding right to opt-out: pre-viability or after birth. For my part, I have seen firsthand that women are capable of using pregnancy as a way to lock men in, on some level, and granting men some rights might decrease the power preganant women can abuse against men who father their children. It seems that if a woman can unilaterally make the decision to terminate a pregnancy, men should also be granted some similar right to opt-out of parenthood.

It seems that standard counter-argument against men goes: "if you don't want to take the risk, don't have sex." But that is not the standard for women. We can go out, take no precautions, have sex all day long - and we are still permitted to backtrack and rid ourselves of the consequences by seeking an abortion. It doesn't seem right to tell men "If you don't like the consequences, don't have sex" while women have historically argued that "don't have sex" is a ridiculous assertion that interferes with freedom of choice. (Remember, the "don't like the risk, don't have the sex" argument is huge among pro-lifers, and pro-choicers have long since turned their nose against that argument)

On tangential matters: Many states also permit a mother to "abandon" her child within hours of birth if the baby is taken to a hospital - no questions asked. It's tantamount to giving your child up for adoption, and,although many such state-statutes use gender neutral language, the reality is that this is an option used by women. The idea being to avoid situations you hear about on the news every once in awhile where a newborn is found in a trashcan or some other horrifying circumstance.

But in all these situations - the consequences for the man after pregnancy occurs is completely in the women's hands. If she decides to keep the child, men have no choice but to become fathers (well, at least in the financial obligation respect). They (obviously) can't require a woman to undergo abortion. And man also can't "give up" their child unilaterally after birth (a one-sided adoption, essentially).

I also see some failed-logic in the arguments. Even if a man could "opt-out" and we grant the mother the same right, it can never be the same because the emotional and mental associations created by carrying a child are unique to the female via biology. In the abortion context, it is the female that has to make the hard-decision of whether to undergo a procedure on her body - and it is much easier for a man to detach himself from the decision and abstractly decide "no, I don't want a child" and then sign the hypothetical "opt-out" paperwork. Similarly, if the woman carries the child to birth, similar emotional and mental associations between the mother and the child are created by the way of things biologically and, again, there are differences between a man in that situation wanting to "adopt out" his rights and females making a similar decision. But is that enough to deny men any say in reproduction, absent telling them that they need to abstain all together if they don't like the consequences?

So, are things as they are fair? Should men also have an absolutely protected reproductive right? How about a limited right - like recognizing contracts entered into between men and women that state that the man does not wish to procreate, both agree that abortion is the way in the event of a pregnancy, and if the woman changes her mind then no paternal rights and obligations may attach? Also, let's take Casey into the future.... there will undoubtedly come a day when it will be medically possible to remove an embryo, within days of conception, and maintain and incubate it for the gestational period. When that happens, will men be granted the right to demand the product of the female removing the potential child from her body be handed over to the fathering male (assume, arguendo, that the procedure is exactly the same in terms of what the woman experiences, complications, etc)? Will the man have the right to elect that the embryo be removed, rather than destroyed, and maintained for the man if he wants to keep the child? If so, would men equally be permitted to demand child support? Should they?

I don't have the answers, but I think this is an interesting topic. One I am sure will inflame many readers. But what I would appreciate more than tiresome bashing is reasoned responses and thoughts on this issue. I don't know where I stand yet, I'm still thinking it though... but I would love for some of you to come with me.

4 Comments:

  • That is a very good hypothetical. As it stands now, if a woman abandons a child and the father keeps the child, doesn't he have a right to child support from the woman?

    I have personally known of several such cases.

    I'll blog on your hypothetical later today or tomorrow, when I have the chance to do it justice. Good post.

    By Blogger MaxedOutMama, at 10:59 AM  

  • I don't think you can really have anything to counter the biology and the attachments that form or the baggage that is carried from the abortion. It's almost as if you have to toss out that argument. There's really no remedy for that situation. However, for some women it's not an issue so it would be just as as easy as an "opt-out."

    I've never really thought of abortion from this perspective. It's an interesting argument.

    I might have to come back to this. I have a girlfriend begging for attention and claiming that I need a blog support group for my addiction.

    By Blogger Arbusto, at 9:50 AM  

  • I think the abstinance point will reign high on this one. A man have sex is setting himself up to risk, and that risk is known.
    The idea is wonderful, and I would love to see it in action..but the courts will never see this one through.
    I think a womans right to choose is ethical because of the effects of childbirth, and the fact that she is bearing the child and more than likely going to have the biggest influence towards the child. Granted there are are cases where this is not true, but to keep this simple I'd like to stick to the greater majority and my opinion.
    The woman is the carrier, and holds the greater burden. The man, although an active participant, is not impacted in the same ways. The financial and emotional "burdens" would be his, if he chose to lay in that bed.
    I think it is important to hold people accountable for their actions, and although Roe Vs Wade does offer an "out", I think it is a nessesary one for women. Offering it to men, while being equal would give the risk of prego such meaningless concern. Birth control could become a non issue and the aftermath, where human life is affected would be the main stage.
    Don't think it will happen.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:23 PM  

  • Wow, what great arguements, and they can only get better! A wonderful topic that really needs to be discussed further!

    From a guys's perspective, I have always felt that due to our current laws, marriage and parenthood don't walk in step. There is no difference to the courts if a guy is married or not as to whether or not he will be financially responsible! Therefore, currently, from a guy's point of view, if children are your love, why get married! You have to be responsible (financially) either way! (I am not including all of the deadbeats - but I am sure the Mormons understand what I am talking about!) Don't get me wrong, there are many reasons to be married! Topic for another time!

    Unfortunately, there are too many deadbeats out there, not the majority, but a lot of them. Many times it is due to a situation, where the financial means to support a child is just not there. (I wonder what will happen when the next depression hits this country.) Or, the Lawyer for one parent totally blows away the other lawyer, and the poor client is left paying more than is possible. That is just good lawyering, but it destroys part of the family, the financial part, and the lawyers don't care! (been there! still am!)

    As for the possibility of an opt-out agreement for the males, I would agree that something has to be done! Let's be real here. Abstinance, if that is your whole arguement, takes away this entire topic! And it is just not human! For those religious types out there, I hope one day you stop listening to the controling voices in your head that come from man made institutions, and listen to the God that is in your heart!

    Should something be done, yes! Let's see what would happen...

    The golddigger mentality would fade away. DNA has been able to prove who is a father, which is good! But the golddiggers would have to worry about the father opting-out! No longer could it be a "financial decision" for the female!

    Regular people (of average financial means) male and female would have to really decide if they WANT a child or not! It gives both "parents" the after-the-fact options, that only females currently have! In a way, this would be a good thing! Children would more like come into homes where they are truely wanted and loved!

    Of course, if Roe v Wade gets overturned, this entire discussion is out of the window! We will see!

    By Blogger Crazy East Coast Uncle, at 8:51 AM  

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